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Eric Lemieux: Gold's Behavior Flies in the Face of Every Theory
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In an exclusive interview with (The Gold Report), Eric Lemieux, metals and mining analyst with Laurentian Bank Securities, describes gold’s inexplicable descent as a violation of market fundamentals. Eventually the worsening supply deficit will energize the precious metals sector and when it does, he believes the junior explorers will be well positioned to benefit.
The Gold Report: When do you think the market will return to a supply-and-demand dynamic and what will it take to get the prices of well-positioned juniors back up?
Eric Lemieux: At the first sign of an economic downturn, investors pull their money out of the most speculative stocks. That’s why the junior explorers started to decline at the end of 2007, before the rest of the market. It’s a bit like the canary in the coal mine. The downfall started much earlier than September of this year and I think that's unfortunate because it's been a slow, agonizing downward process. The situation has been compounded by the fact that we're having this huge financial economic crisis that appears to be spiraling out of control. I think we’ll eventually hit bottom, and then the markets will stabilize and start picking up again. When it does, I think the junior exploration industry will be well positioned. Why? The supply imbalance existed before the downturn and this deficit can only get worse. At some point, people will realize that we have to invest in the commodities and that will energize the industry.
TGR: It’s difficult for most of us to understand why, given the supply imbalance, commodity prices—especially gold—have declined so much recently. What’s your take on this?
EL: The decline in gold prices flies in the face of every theory. The U.S. dollar has been appreciating and the U.S. economy is going through a recession. Gold should be increasing in value in the face of all this uncertainty. To see the price of gold going down right now is almost unexplainable in my opinion. It begs the question, is this due to some type of manipulation, either directly or indirectly?
Eventually people will realize that you can't sustain both very low commodity prices and a very high U.S. dollar because it violates certain fundamentals. Back in February 2002, an article in The Economist talked about a potential crisis resulting from businesses using financial instruments that they didn’t understand (credit risks). But everyone just turned their backs and carried on. I think it’s a matter of restoring common sense to the market. I am, in particular, in agreement with a written statement made by the general manager of the Québec Mineral Exploration Association, that says that markets must return to their original mission—to finance economic development and not speculation.
TGR: Hedge funds and money markets have had to liquidate, which is causing a lot of turmoil. Once that settles out, won’t supply and demand start to play a stronger role again?
EL: Agreed. And when that happens, I think the metals commodities industry will be in a strong position to benefit.
TGR: When do you think this might happen? Three months? Six months? A year?
EL: I estimate six months.
TGR: When we get back to supply and demand as the market drivers, and the commodities come back, what range do you think gold and copper will trade in?
EL: I think they’ll return to the levels we saw at the beginning of 2008, and I think these were fair prices. I don’t like skyrocketing prices because that’s not good for the long-term viability of the industry. I think gold was trading around $850-$920 in January. It may have touched $1,000 later in March. Good companies are able to make money when gold is in that $850 range. Copper was trading around $3.50, a price that made sense in terms of the supply and demand. These are viable long-term prices. There will be fluctuations and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a huge spike when the markets initially rebound. But for the overall health of the industry, as long as it is a normal price, everyone comes out a winner.
TGR: To what extent do speculators play a role in these huge spikes?
EL: I think much of it is due to speculators. Having said that, I think speculators have their right to be there. I think it makes the market more fluid. Unfortunately, as we've seen with the financial crisis, when there's excessive abuse, it’s unhealthy. I think we’re in the mess we’re in now because Wall Street really went to an extreme, to total deregulation.
TGR: So you think the market will regain equilibrium over time.
EL: Yes. I believe we’re experiencing the results of probable financial industry fraud. Time will tell who was responsible. I hope we will hold the perpetrators accountable. Unfortunately, I think certain elements are trying to sweep all this under the rug.
When I was young, banks were always viewed as being very conservative. They were the blue chips. Now that we’ve witnessed fraud and abuse in the banking and insurance industry, I hope people will see that banks are not necessarily the best, safest investment. And perhaps this will change their perception of a speculative market or industry, like mining, and they will be able to invest in these markets knowing that a dollar spent there will be a dollar well spent.
I hope the perception of the mineral exploration industry will change because I think there are a lot of good players and, fundamentally, people are trying to discover, develop, or produce a tangible asset. In this day and age, I think something that is tangible has its worth. Once people get to know the industry they will realize that it does have value and maybe has been undervalued for many years. At the very least, I hope that people will be more diligent in regards to what was regarded as a conservative industry (financial) and realize that the mining and mineral exploration industries have made much progress and deserve a better appreciation.
To learn more about specific mineral exploration companies Eric Lemieux recommends, read the full article.
Éric Lemieux, MSc, P. Geo., is a Mining Analyst who joined Laurentian Bank Securities (“LBS”) in January 2008. Prior to joining LBS, Eric worked for nine years as a consultant responsible for applying Regulation NI 43-101- for the Autorité des marches financiers (“AMF”) as well for the New Brunswick Securities Commission. Eric had previously worked at the Montreal Exchange and prior to that had managed exploration projects for Cambior, Noranda and Soquem. Eric holds two master’s degrees, one in Mineral Economics from the Colorado School of Mines (1997) and in another in Metamorphic-Structural Geology from Laval University in Quebec City (1992). Eric hold a B. Sc. in Geology from Laval University (1989).
Gold Report
31st October 2008
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